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Ep.41 Plants Help You Accept Who You Are

Join me and Anné Klint from Born to Flourish in this fascinating discussion about shifting into a new Earth paradigm out of competition and into cooperation. This all starts with radical acceptance, and plants are the ultimate allies to help you accept who you are.

Throughout our chat, we discuss how plants help you step into presence and the role of plants in healing trauma and guilt. Anné Klint is a trauma-informed expert in the field of psycho-spiritual-energetic healing, providing unique insight into this delicate topic.

There are so many nuggets of wisdom here, from the connection between self-knowledge, authenticity, and the soul’s mission to emphasizing the importance of recognizing and embracing one’s own evolutionary process.

This might be one of those episodes you listen to more than once!

Topics Covered about accepting who you are

  • Shaming doesn’t exist in the natural world
  • Living in the present, even if I am always evolving
  • Your Soul archetype–the essence of your being

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TRANSCRIPT OF PLANT HELP YOU ACCEPT WHO YOU ARE

Welcome to ReConnect with Plant Wisdom. I am your host, Tigrilla Gardenia, Nature-Inspired Mentor and Leadership Coach. In this podcast, I share ancient and modern knowledge, from biology to spirituality, about the wondrous ways plants can help you lead a Naturally Conscious Life.

Hello Hello everyone. Welcome back to another episode of reconnect with plant wisdom. I am happy to be here with you. I want to share with you this beautiful conversation that I had with Annette Clint. Now Anna cleanse was somebody that I met several months ago and participate in the Phoenix Sol salon. It was one of these beautiful one day events where there’s tons of speakers speaking and as soon as we got on the call, and started to discuss the topic when she was interviewing me it we just quickly ran out of time it was just so obvious that there was so much more we could go into. So we decided to put together another interview another conversation where we could dive deeper and I’m really excited to talk with you this episode which is episode 41 is all about how plants help you accept who you really are, and and is the perfect person to have this conversation with because she is a trauma informed expert in the field of psycho spiritual energetic healing. So who better to really get in and ask those good questions about how is it that the plants help us get out of our conditioning step into presence help us get rid of that guilt and that shame? But I’m not going to summarize the whole episodes for you because I probably could. But without further ado, I want to share with you episode 41 how plants help you accept who you really are my interview session with an excellent


Hello I’m Anna Klint here with born to flourish and I have with us today to Gloria gardenia. to Korea is a nature inspired mentor, a personal evolution coach, a world ambassador for plant intelligence. Her research focuses on plant neurobiology plant music social Asian character teachings and ecosystem thinking. She helps multi potential eights like us creatives and nature printers confidently lead naturally conscious lives in collaboration with the plant kingdom. Welcome so much are welcome degree. I’m so happy that you’re here.

Thank you Thank you. I’m so excited to be here.

Yeah, we had an introductory conversation as part of the Phoenix soul salon in September. And at the end of that I was like I needed more time with I did not get all of my questions answered. Your work is so interesting and deep and so like scientific and so to Sam time like I just I love it. So I’m so delighted that we can go into it a little bit deeper today.

You I’m excited. I’m excited to see where the conversation goes. Yeah,
one of the things that you had brought up that we didn’t actually I don’t think we really went into or at least we didn’t get into the weeds with it as I like to say and we love our weeds here. In the nature community. We love our weeds. There’s this idea. I do a lot of trauma healing work and a piece around trauma is that we lose connection to our self. And we don’t know how to be authentically ourselves in the world. And this is like a fundamental aspect of being able to live full, whole, purposeful lives where we’re fully engaged is being able to reclaim that authenticity. And you said something that I really want to get into which is like how plants help us accept who we really are, like intrinsically are and step into more expansive ways of thinking and being I want to know all about that.

So this is it’s a fantastic and it there is a lot because we have to understand that most of the time the reason that we don’t really get into our authentic self, it’s not a conscious choice. It’s most likely a conditioning. And so I live in Dominica. It’s one of the largest spiritual eco communities in the world. Part of the esoteric school here and a big school of thought is the idea that we have three main rivers of conditioning that we have. We have the river of our education, all good intentions, but they teach us how to do things. We have the rivers connected to our family, you know, what are their chins, what do our families teach us is right and wrong. What is respectful and disrespectful? All kinds of aspects of this. And then the third one is our social, you know cultural norms, right? Where we are coming from, where do we live in all those aspects. And these all have been kind of imposed on us with the idea that this is the way that we have I say, this is the way we understand the world, right? We understand the world through these and this is the way we interact with the problem is that going down these rivers mean I never learned there is no class that we get told, and that we get taught how to trust your gut. You don’t do mathematics saying what is the best way for me to apply my own way of thinking to the math problem. We’re taught that you’re supposed to do one plus one equals two and these are the things that we do. So all of these well intentioned, condemned means we’re completely disconnected from who we are. So how can we actually be authentic when that happens? And on top of that, the trauma the being weird the all the other aspects that reinforce those conditionings and that’s what makes it really hard. The thing about the plant world is that those types of conditionings don’t really exist because a plant conscious constantly has to adapt to the conditions in which there are so it most of the plants that you have inside your home, for example, were plants that originally came school environments or for completely different environments, from the one in which they live in right now. They’ve had to adapt or else they die.

And so that fact that being sessile not being able to run away not being able to get away I mean, our legs seem like a huge benefit, but in reality, it’s actually a hindrance, because it means we have been taught to run away from our problems and run away from things that are difficult. So the plants really first and foremost, on understand that an ecosystem is not made from inputs that are hard coded to the rules or to those functions. It’s made from a series of individuals, some intimate start to carry out their normal functions. And then if those functions don’t work, look around and say,

Well, what’s happening in this environment. Why is this not working? And what do I need to modify? So even fertile, then plants act as a model to help us see that, oh, wait a minute. I need to take whatever I was taught. But if it’s not working at my environment, and what is it that my environment does what I have been taught clash with God, and where do I make modifications? And this doesn’t mean that anybody was wrong, wrong, the extra powerful that I never forgot, which is we were about gay marriage or something like that. And my grandmother looked at me and she says, You have to understand in order for me to believe that being gay is okay. I have to believe that my mother was wrong. Mm hmm. That’s a powerful statement. That’s a recognition that the river is there. It came from a right or wrong that your parents taught you, and it might dishonouring my parents by modifying my thought process. Yeah. And so for some people, that’s extremely difficult, where plants help us see that in the natural world when it comes to our natural self. We are Oh, it’s okay to modify our way of being from the way that our parents were because that is what’s most suited and adapted for the environment and it’s also moving forward. So that’s one aspect.

The other aspect is the plants also give us the elements that we need in order to do this. So they provide for us not just model but also the kind of mentorship that that kind of is the right word. I’m looking for the conditions in order for me to do this. So when you go in you immerse yourself in a natural environment, whatever way that that might be. That could be going through a park in your neighborhood and just losing yourself in the sounds of the birds and in the plants and then everything that’s happening, or even just sitting down outside and staring up the grass for a while or, you know, spending some time with one of the house plants you live with and being with them. There are a whole series of chemical interactions as well as other types of interactions that happen. That naturally helped me lower my stress. So work on low level fear, get through, kind of kept me out of depression, and find clarity, improve my cognitive ability. There’s a whole series of scientifically marked experiments that help us understand that immersing ourselves in natural environments really leads to more positive mental health. So when I’m moving towards positive mental health, it’s I feel safer, I feel taken care of, and I can then allow myself to see what’s happening in front of me with better eyes.

I’m not operating from a place of fear. I’m operating instead, from the ability of saying what’s going on? What is it that that’s happening? And I’m able to even be more gentle with myself. I don’t I don’t judge myself for this. I see it as Okay, well, that’s where I am. Where do I need to go? So that’s another way and the last way that I’ll mention I mean, there’s so many others but I’ll mention that is the the also the aspect that we allow ourselves to enter into that deep relationship with plants. Besides the fact of I won’t even go into the whole communicating with plants because once you start communicating with plants they you know, can really help you see things from a different perspective but even not even getting there. There’s the Inspect allow myself to connect in that way. I immediately am wrapped into the president the almost like most of the time we as humans live or in the nostalgia of the past, which is where a lot of things have happened or in the anticipation of what’s in the future.

Right. When I’m working closely with a plant, it’s almost impossible for you to because plants grow so slow, that you sort of can’t Yeah, sure. I can remember when you were tiny, but you don’t live there. You kind of like oh, look at who you are today. And there’s this entire aspect of presence that naturally happens. And that’s where you can again be more authentic with yourself because you are bumped into the presence. And so you’re not worrying about who you’ve been, and you’re not worrying about who you become. But you start to sit with who you are, which honestly we do very little.

Very little, don’t we, we judge who we’ve been, we think about what we want to become, but we don’t spend a lot of time in a non attached way of saying okay, but this is where I am right now. And sure it’s not all perfect, but it’s what I have and therefore I’m going to just find that way to be okay with it. And to sit in that and that allows me then to start to emerge out in a way that is more true to who I am like I can again see those rivers and I can see where they’re coming and I can see rob me. And then I can say to myself, Okay, well, this we’re over here. I don’t even know if it’s good or bad. Like it’s not that you automatically know this is not good for me. But sometimes you don’t even really know if it is so you have to sort of give yourself permission to get out of that and say I’m going to test this. I’m going to try something completely new and see what happens like do I really know what I like to eat? Or was I just eating what my parents do? Do I really want to eat at that time he first or is that just something my parents taught me to do? Right totally.

Well, my society yeah, there’s something come really strongly especially around like the first point right after you’re talking about the Three Rivers of conditioning. And this notion that the plant being with the plants and engaging with them, is a space that is free from shame, and blame and self criticism, self denial, and coming back into this presence of you know, so often, especially in the transformational community, it’s so much about who we’re becoming if that is like what we are and who we are now is not good enough, and that we have to become something else. And so when we’re getting you know, as we’re extracting ourselves from those rivers of conditioning, we have a tendency to feel shame about it, like, Oh, I’m not doing it the way so and so says that I should or I was taught or et cetera. And it’s so inherent and shame and authenticity and not like coexist together. And so I just love this idea that you’re bringing forward around like asking, you know, right now I’m looking out how the wind is like moving the juniper tree in my backyard and I’m just like, the motion of it is kind of enthralling, and then I’m about to lose my train of thought, because I’m so present with it. Yeah. And this idea that this present moment right here right now, I think presents itself takes you out of that river conditioning.

When we can really land into it. And I just I love I love love, love, love, love this the first time I connected with a plant and actually received a response, I got chills. It is such an invigorating sensation when you break through like that and realize just how connected we are and that we are richer as a nature inspired mentor myself. I was super excited to stumble upon the shift network and its mission to empower a global network of evolutionary change agents. Talk about my kind movement. There are so many inspiring thought leaders, healers, empaths and other visionaries. all under one roof, each with an individual and collective mission to help you reawaken and CO create a just and prosperous what. Now check out the show notes. Click on the link and learn more about the shift network. consider enrolling look to they are the perfect complement to your evolving naturally conscious life. I hope you enjoy what you find in the shift network and come back to the naturally conscious community and let us know all about what you’re learning and exploring. I agree yeah, and I do think it’s so important to recognize that the shame the the feeling like again, something is wrong. Those such it’s so strong, especially in some cultures and we can hide the cultural aspects of it. Because that’s where it comes from. So we need to then remember Okay, wait a minute, I am a being of nature. And like it was interesting if you if you watch yourself when you were watching the Juniper, right?

Anybody who’s watching the video can like rewind really quick and look, you moved like it right? You entered into that relationship and that also gave you an opportunity to feel your body in a different way. And that’s exactly what happens right? If I’m looking at how a bait of glass a blade of glass of grass a blade of grass. Yeah, exactly. Like how that is and then you start to see Wait a minute grass is ever just that one kind of grass unless it’s artificial. But if not, it’s actually tons of other little types of grasses and wait, look at the diversity that’s happening here. And you start to follow that and they start to recognize it inside yourself. Because we are all nature. I mean, we have to remember that we have three ways to be with nature. One we can observe nature. So it’s the idea of observing the environment around me, too. I can participate in nature I can just with the natural environment. The third is the most important I am teacher and I have to remember that I am in there and even ecosystem that shaming does exist. That idea that anything that you do is wrong. It’s all a test. It’s all experiments. It’s all the way that we explore the world. It’s all the way we evolve.

And evolution isn’t a thing. I’m always striving for evolution and thing that’s happening in the now and I think that that’s the other part of it. I don’t use transformation as a word as much because transformation to me oftentimes implies a future. Evolution is always happening. Nature is always evolving. I am always evolving the way I’m having this conversation with you. If you were to ask me this question again tomorrow, my answer would be different because I am evolving. I’m taking in more things. I’m saying it in a different way. I’ve had different experiences throughout it. And when we can remember every single thing I do is an experimentation that I can then take in and integrate or I can let go then it’s really free. It makes it it makes you realize that there are no mistakes. There are just things that you maybe could do in a different way and as long as you learn from it, you can pick up and go. I love that.

That we are in this evolutionary process that that really resonates so strongly and and I just I love that. I’m curious, like one of the things that you talk about our soul archetypes and our souls mission in the context of what we’ve already been talking about, like how does the authenticity that this you know, like self knowledge self? Like being with plants allows us to have a certain kind of a mirror that we don’t necessarily have even with people who know us really well or even with our coaches or healers or whatever. And I’m curious how that relates to this idea of the soul archetype the soul mission from your lens. Yeah.

So we have to imagine ourselves is that all of us have a main sort of archetype element, deep pattern that we carry out all this habit, I mean, and we’ve can carry that same type out for as long as our soul has this sense whether you believe that that’s one life or that’s 700 million lives, but it’s always in there. And that archetype that element really describes kind of the way that I process the world, in nature. So if you look at it from a biomimetic perspective, we call it the deep pattern. It’s the the simple rule that gets carried out by that species, or by that series of organisms or super organism that ends up kind of helping manage what happens in the world. And we all have that’s our our elemental thing like the catalyzer. Right, the person that creates is the catalyst for change. The person who always no matter what environment they’re in, always drops that thing that makes everything sort of change and changes the rules on you. There’s the person who is the pillar, right? I am always my my friend once told me that what he loves most about his wife is that no matter where he goes, he can pick and she will be routed. So they can move from country to country from experience to experience and she will find a way to be his rooted anchor. She is the pillar upon which he can always kind of lean on and so do all her friends say the same thing. Each one of us has a way of doing that.

And this is also what we see in the natural world. There are these deep patterns that carry out and this is what helps the ecosystem all sort of work together and flourish in it. And since once we understand what that is, then I can look at all the different passions, all the different ideas I have all the ways and move it through consciously that element to understand. Now, this doesn’t mean that your roles are different. Like it doesn’t mean you can’t be a leader. If you’re sunshine like if I’m a pillar. For example, I can be the type of leader that my team can rely on that my team can really lean on that my team comes to me when they looking for support in some ways. If I’m instead a son archetype or a son element, then this means that I’m the one that’s supposed to bring inspiration. I’m supposed to bring new lights I’m supposed to shine through in these ways. If instead I’m a catalyst, I’m the kind of leader that helps to bring in new so I’m probably working in elements that bring in something new unexpected that takes what static and blows it up in some ways. So there’s lots of different ways to do it. And the plants help us really understand that this is a natural process, and that it’s not limiting. Because again, I can express myself through many different ways, right? I could be a leader and I could be a painter and I can be a you know, a musician and I could be a secretary and it doesn’t matter what the actual role is. It’s how you carry out the role that is important.

And that’s what happens in an ecosystem. You have these particular archetypes that are always being embodied, somebody has to produce this somebody’s to so you have your decomposers you have instead your denture bores. You have instead those that produce nourishment, you have those that transport nutrients, you have those that can break down rock, those that can break down phosphorus, those can you know, there’s all kinds of different elements and that helps better understand that mixer my way of doing things is not reliant on whatever passion I’m doing. I can change from one passion to another. What it is though, is the way I carry it out allows me to really be me because it allows me to express myself more fully. So going back to the authentic self when I recognize my element when I recognize who I really am, what are my patterns and what is my natural way of doing things. Now I have I’m expansive because I can take in money and through that filter and have ocular that is what I was here to do. That is what sold to the overall mission that it’s doing. And each life I get to do it from a different purpose with set of tools with a different set of characters and patterns in all these same Andrew my engine, I’m refining it,

I’m making it more clear. I’m being able to use it more efficiently. Okay,
saying what is your soul archetype? So good question. So my I’m still working on identifying all the elements of it because I’m kind of seem to be some sort of hybrid and that’s why I’m like working it. I am very, very good. How do I say I’m an I’m a I’m an organizer and a big picture organizer like I can see what the big picture is, and distill it down to the elements that are most important. So that’s a really big part of something I’ve always done. So I’ve done it as a project manager. I’ve done it as an event producer, done it as a teacher I’m really at helping you sort of understand the big picture and then distilling it into the individual things that have to be done in a very practical matter. So my this lifetime it comes through in practicalities like but not how do I say this? It’s not about a task list. It’s about really seeing the elements that make up the whole.
Yeah, I’m picturing a big tree canopy all over the leaf and then the larger branches coming. Coming to the synthesis of the
that’s so cool. Exactly. It’s
it we go about finding out what our soul archetype is through this lens that you’re talking about.
Yeah, so there’s a few different ways to do it. I’m a dumb and Hurrian perspective. We have an entire school that is dedicated to this right part of the initiatic path that DOM and her is discovering yourself. Also included in the Mystery School program that we have. That is all about understanding who you are understanding the big console engine works, and then why does including that that’s one way of doing it. Another way of doing it is of course working with me in the sense of what I am. What I love doing is I work with people one on one and in community so I live in great like I said Dominica is one of the largest eco communities out there. And so the idea of we evolve better together and faster is a concept of neat, right. If you go to a biomimicry website you will see it Nagin clear partnerships, collaboration, collaborations, mutualisms, all of them the togetherness really accentuates the learning process and the growing and the evolving process. So when when I work with people, I work with you one on one because we need to create that space for you to really explore to let you open yourself because you’d be amazed how many people come and give you one little piece of the story because they don’t understand that the whole story. All matters. Everything matters. Like you don’t want to limit yourself. You want one on you and to look at your my client the other day said to me something so beautiful. She said, I have the feeling that I could say to you the worst thing that I might have ever done, the thing that causes me the most shame, and you would help me find how it’s okay. I’m like Yeah, beautiful. That’s what I do. Because once you feel like it’s okay, then it’s easy for you to move forward. And another aspect is I have my own online community. It’s called the conscious community has both free and paid parts, as well as everybody in the world that ACU wants to go in there goes in there and this is the place of operation where everything we’ve talked about is is we need to change the paradigm. The paradigm that we’re in right now in our world is scary, it’s chaotic. It’s shameful all these aspects and our vocabulary mirrors that our our way of acting are rivers hood with this idea that we have the human world and then like everyone else is below and and even there, we’re constantly sort of gouging our eyes out because there’s always something going on. Where it is a place for us to weird to throw out concepts and ideas that maybe today don’t make sense. But I promise you that when we fiddle with them, we’ll have one of my clients that I love. She talks about her 22nd century business model and when we first started working together years ago, she could not describe it, but she knew it existed.

And only recently after a few years of working together with me, we started to talk about some things and we were like, This is the 22nd century business model like this. And it’s completely different from the way we would normally think about doing business. And I love that because it’s an incubator. It’s a catalyzer it’s a container might I would say that the secondary element that I possess that is my superpower is creating a safe environment. Like I love creating a place and I used to do this when I produced events. I did this when I was you know again, working at places like Microsoft creating software. How do you feel safe enough experiments? How do you feel accepted, no matter what comes out of it and I love creating that which is why I decided to do it on my own platform. Because I wanted that safe net that people could let out there whatever they were thinking about and nobody would make fun of you on the contrary ebdb Like, that’s an interesting concept. Like yeah, I never thought about that, which is where the plants are really helpful because plants don’t use human the human logic we have today. Plants have a completely alternative to us a logic that is really their own and so when we step into our plant, and that’s where we reawaken that part of ourselves, we have the ability to tap into that whole evolutionary concepts what’s been working for so many years, which is the fact that I Right,
right. I want to go back you just froze for a second. I want to go back and just remark on when you were talking about, you know, the community that you’re living in and your naturally conscious community, you’re talking about collaboration and mutual support, and you said a whole bunch of words that are in right now but essentially, you were describing the, the uprising of iodine.

You’re describing the the New Earth paradigm. You’re describing the Aquarian Age like how this complete paradigm shift out of competition and into collaboration and into mutual support. And in you know, from shame to you know, radical acceptance, just want to you know, make that note that are like this is you know, really paralleling what is you know, a lot of others are talking about in terms of, and pardon me, for that I don’t know if my timer went off, but around these ideas around, like how we’re going to move from this place of war base of self denial, this place of annihilation of here so I’m just putting in that plug there about the overlapping ways that that we’re working in in harmony even though you’re working with plants and in other ways. Total stuff about plants and you what when it comes to implants, or using plants as wise medicine, herbal medicine, I’m curious like, how you relate to plants in that way.

Thanks for listening to this episode of reconnect with plant wisdom, Intro and Outro Music by Steve Shuli and poinsettia from the singing Life of Plants. So join me to give you like our Dania and my plant collaborators next time on reconnect with plant wisdom


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